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		<title>LOH: David Spangler</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Layers of Health interview by Nina Wallinder with David Spangler on Incarnational Spirituality as a part of the Spirit &#038; Energy series 2010.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sense of self importance was shaken when David suggested that some of the non-physical beings might not care that I&#8217;m here and I&#8217;m physical!</p>
<h3>Incarnational Spirituality</h3>
<p>We can have relationships with non-physical beings as David did with John, a teacher &amp; mentor for him for many years. He also gave a wonderful example of how the renowned gardens in <a title="Findhorn Foundation" href="http://www.findhorn.org/index.php?tz=360" target="_blank">Findhorn</a> could exist in inhospitable environs with the co-creative forces from the non-physical realms and &#8220;release miraculous capacities&#8221;.</p>
<p>There are 3 main zones of reality that David has identified:</p>
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<li><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Incarnational</span></strong>: physical, mental, emotinal, energetic</li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Hyper-Dimensional or Higher Order</strong></span>: hard to wrap our minds around&#8230; unknown upper limit</li>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Transitional</strong></span>: many layers, bringing together the Incarnational and Higher Order zones</li>
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<p>There is a necessarily <em><strong>subjective nature</strong></em> to all spiritual explorations because the objects of our observation always need to be through our eyes. We have our <strong>glamour</strong> (which I found out as in his example of marriage, isn&#8217;t all bad) and we are the center of our perceptual universe&#8230; but there is an interesting balance between: <em>the seduction of significance</em> &amp; <em>being containers for Spirit</em>.</p>
<p>David does not see the ecological layers as hierarchical. There are 2 considerations for non-physical as well as physical contact so you will more easily know what you are seeing and experiencing:</p>
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<li>The subtle energy of contact</li>
<li>The substance of contact</li>
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<p>It was interesting to find out that David doesn&#8217;t consider these realms a spiritual issue or religious issue, but an <em><strong>ecological issue</strong></em> of co-existing and co-creating for the betterment of existence and how we participate in the wholeness of the world.</p>
<p><strong>Thank you David, for walking us through an exercise for self honor and appreciation!</strong></p>
<address>David&#8217;s websites:</address>
<address><a title="Lorian Association" href="http://www.lorian.org" target="_blank">www.lorian.org</a></address>
<address><a title="David Spangler" href="http://www.davidspangler.com" target="_blank">www.davidspangler.com</a><br />
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